August 25, 2003

Who To Avoid

Young men, listen up! Looking for a guide for what women to avoid in your search for a prospective mate? Here is a handy guide, provided by some conservative women interviewed for the American Enterprise Online. Heed these warning signs so you don't stumble into a relationship with someone who has a serious gender role fixation, and, frankly, just plain confusion.

"The modern-day loss of respect for manliness is an aberration." ("Real" men have lost respect) yet...
"How can men treat women in special, flowery ways, yet walk into a boardroom and face them as hardnosed equals? I’m not sure that’s a balance men are capable of." (Men, for all their manliness, are so stupid they can't distinguish between a business relationship and a romantic interest. Therefore they should treat all women as potential objects of romance. Now [i]there's[/i] respect!)

Look for other exciting things, like how hot Donald Rumsfeld is and the allure of your grandfather.

"Women don’t want a guy to feel their pain, they want a guy to clean the gutters." Remember, these are conservative women talking. I suppose they expect to be slapped around a bit once the gutters are cleaned. After all, a man can't handle using his muscles [i]and[/i] his brain.

For those of you who men are thinking, "Hey -- waitaminute! These gals sound like quite a catch!" I suggest you grab your club and head out. You've got a few women here with their long hair waiting to be dragged to the nearest cave.

But just remember -- conservatives are the real men. If you're man enough (meaning you won't discuss the drug problem in your past, went AWOL from your military post, lead a playboy lifestyle off your dad's money and got a nerd to plan out all your strategy) you can even be elected leader of all the manly conservatives.

Posted by James at August 25, 2003 10:55 AM
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Stoppit! Yer makin' me hot.

Posted by: julie at August 25, 2003 11:35 AM

> CHAREN: It would be wrong not to give
> feminism some credit for improving
> women’s place in the world. But I believe
> many of these changes would have happened
> organically anyway—with rising prosperity,
> labor-saving devices in the home, and
> widespread education. You didn’t need
> a bunch of bra-burners for that.

Ummm, no? Is this person trying to say 'Good things come to those who wait?' I don't think waiting around for equality is a real good plan. Had the women of America followed that plan the woman who made this comment would be at home vacuuming right now.

While feminism (like any social movement) can lead to fanaticism, I'd hardly call the women who worked so hard to bring sexual equality to our culture "a bunch of bra-burners".

Personally I'm quite happy to be living at this time in America. I think it's great how far women have come. I sincerely hope the glass ceiling gives way eventually. I figure it has to at this point now that you have women filling roles like CEO, CFO, etc. As much as I hate the thought of my little one going off to war, I'm glad women are getting into the military. What I would like to see, more than anything, is a female President. I truly hope that happens before I die.

Someday (I hope), if people keep working at it, we will all recognize that women and men are equal but not the same, and maybe the differences in the genders can be celebrated rather than denigrated. I don't know if it will happen, but I hope it does.

I freely admit that, in general, I love women. And both in general and the specific, I don't understand them. One day a woman you care about wants you to do X, and the next day she's pissed if you do X. In the end I'm left hopelessly confused, but strangely happy about it... maybe that's the way it is supposed to be... with women enigmatic and men curious. I know one thing for sure, what a boring world it would be if we were all the same.

Posted by: Chuck S. at August 25, 2003 2:49 PM

Since I didn't hear you threaten to shoot anyone or carry them out of a burning building, you're probably some wimpy liberal-type.

Posted by: JP at August 25, 2003 3:41 PM

Yes I am a wimpy liberal, staunchly for the rights of women, and yet undeniably male. I happily invite any woman who thinks otherwise to throw on a boostier and a pair of spandex shorts and come hang out in my office for 5 minutes or so. Sure I won't get any work done, and I'll need help hunting for my eyeballs once they've popped out of my head, but my maleness will be confirmed.

Posted by: Chuck S. at August 25, 2003 4:17 PM

"One day a woman you care about wants you to do X, and the next day she's pissed if you do X."

Aw, Chuck. That's not just women. That's all human beings. Including men. :-) Most people can't even figure out what they want themselves. I know I can't. That's why self-help gurus can make such a fortune writing all those self-help books that TELL you what you should want (or what your SO should want, or how to make your SO want what you want them to want, or whatever).

Posted by: julie at August 25, 2003 7:25 PM

You're right of course. I guess I just don't worry so much about men I can't figure out. None of us are truly rational are we? We all have a healthy amount of cognitive dissonance going on, and none of us likes to admit it. Thanks Julie. :)

Posted by: Chuck S. at August 26, 2003 9:29 AM

This posting reminds me of something I heard on WBUR in the past few days. Some guy was prattling on about how women were naturally better at parenting than men, and men shouldn't have to try and "do it all." The subtle subtext I got from all this was that women, by being in the workforce, have disrupted the "natural" order, forcing men to be parents, when biologically, it's really a woman's job. So get out of my boardroom, honey, and back in the kitchen.

He made reference to the '80s "having it all" attitude, and basically said men should not have to deal with the kiddies after a day at work. He tried to couch his language in terms flattering to women, a la "women are naturally wonderful mothers," and the like. Really? Apparently, I've misplaced my natural motherhoodness somewhere. Damn. Must've lost it in a move.

If I could only find the link to the audio, I'd post it. It was rich. And deep (as in "put on your boots, it's getting deep").

As I drove, I repeatedly said to my radio, "What a load of crap." He had the energy to impregnate the woman who bore his child, but he suddenly doesn't have the wherewithal to bother with the tot? Give me a break. Say what you mean, unless, of course, you're gutless.

Perhaps he'll meet a nice l'il phillie through the American Enterprise Online.

Posted by: Patti M. at August 26, 2003 4:47 PM

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