October 17, 2003


But what the hell did I expect? The Red Sox have once again ripped the heart out of the chest of fans everywhere in New England. And they did it in the most painful way possible. 7 games, blew a 4 nothing lead, 11th inning...

As Strong Bad would say, "Today's forecast is total crap."

Questions to ponder:

  1. How can we possibly have lost?
  2. What was Pedro doing pitching in the 8th?
  3. What the hell??!?!

Posted by James at October 17, 2003 1:11 AM
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Who wants in on the when do the Red Sox fire Grady poll!!! I get the day after the World Series ends.

Posted by: Bob at October 17, 2003 9:18 AM

I'm too tired and sad to even think about baseball today.

Honestly, there's no team to root for, either. I'd never root for the Yankees, but the FL Marlins? Who? Expansion crap.

I don't know if I've got the strength to bother with baseball next year. I'm going to need _all_ of the off season to recover.

I feel like I've been brought to the edge of the most explosive, delicious orgasm, and then denied the climax. Sorry to be so graphic, but that's pretty much how I feel.

Posted by: Patti M. at October 17, 2003 9:56 AM

As one who has not bothered following any sport for as long as I can remember, I was honestly surprised to find myself watching this game. I was honestly surprised to find myself rooting for the Sox and caring about the outcome.

And, after Pedro narrowly escaped during the 7th inning by striking out Soriano with 2 men on, I was honestly surprised to see him walking out to the pitcher's mound at the beginning of the 8th.

Then when the game was tied I couldn't watch anymore and left the room--I stuck my head back in from time to time but for the most part I couldn't watch. I was disgusted to see a game that should have been a clearcut victory go 11 innings and end in defeat.


Posted by: Chuck S. at October 17, 2003 10:12 AM

You win some, you Grady some...

This one was worse than anything that happened in '86.

Posted by: Pat at October 17, 2003 10:25 AM

At least when Buckner missed the ball, it was an honest mistake. Leaving Pedro in? That's the kind of mistake where everyone should have known better.

Posted by: julie at October 17, 2003 10:59 AM

The World Series was going to be my climax point so for me this was more like disappointing foreplay. Grady, Kim and Nomar may be gone before next opening day.

Posted by: Mike at October 17, 2003 10:59 AM

And another generation of people tortured by the Red Sox is born.

my daughter had trouble getting ready for school this morning, so I ended up having to drive her in. She wasn't really enthusiastic about going to school, so when I checked her in, she had a little frown on her face. One of the office managers asked "Where's your smile this morning?" Another one replied "She's a Red Sox fan."

Posted by: James at October 17, 2003 11:03 AM


Maybe we should call them the Blue Sox.

Posted by: James at October 17, 2003 11:09 AM

I doubt Nomar will be gone, but Kim is definitely a goner.

As for Grady, well, I wonder if he shouldn't be kept on. He's a pretty even-tempered guy, which goes a long way (how many managers have been more a part of the story and histrionics instead of the framework?). He doesn't fiddle with the lineup like Jimy Williams did (and you know that was just crazy). He's not a cokehead like Hobson. He doesn't talk like he's got a mouth full (and head full) of marbles like Joe Morgan.

Just yesterday, we were discussing Grady's approach to questions from the media. He never singles out anyone for praise or punishment--he talks about the team as a whole. He _is_ the Alan Greenspan of baseball--no one can draw any conclusions, good or bad, from his statements. That's good in the Boston market, where everyone is ready to pounce on every syllable.

That having been said, leaving Pedro in there for the 8th to face multiple lefties while Embry was warmed up and ready was incredibly stupid. Pedro was tired, and obviously thought he was coming out (he looked up to the sky and pointed after the end of the 7th, as he does when he's done). He would not, of course, refuse the ball if asked to go back out, so...

Grady, Grady, Grady. What were you thinking, man?

Posted by: Patti M. at October 17, 2003 11:14 AM

Grady is a great player manager. He's great at handling the press. He is great with brining the team together. He absolutely sucks field managing the team. I think he's gone. Maybe if they get him a bench coach who runs the games and he just sticks to the clubhouse. Kim will be back as a starter I think. There is NO WAY Nomar is gone prior to next June. In fact I think they extend his contract along with Lowe and Varitek. I think Petey is gonna ask for more than he's worth and he's the one that doesn't get extended. The only way they keep all four is if they can somehow diump Manny's contract (not bloody likely).

Posted by: Bob at October 17, 2003 11:45 AM

Grady doesn't have a contract for next year so odds are, the Sox will just leave things in limbo for a bit. I don't think he can come back - the fans want his head and he'll be even more ineffective.

The Sox have an option on Nomar through 2004. They'll exercise that option. They won't break up this team (The heart of it anyway)

Posted by: Steve at October 17, 2003 12:58 PM


- Guys on first and third, and no one scores?
- Grady, you had a bullpen. Why the hell didn't you use it?!
- &#!@*!

Posted by: soxfan at October 17, 2003 3:39 PM

What a game. I think what hurts the most about it is that we had this one pretty much wrapped up, and then Grady killed it. Like that project you were almost finished with, but your mom didn't recognize it and threw it out on you, it was like Grady didn't understand we were ahead and were winning and, and, and...

The question isn't whether or not Grady will be fired, it's whether or not his extension will be picked up. It's hard to say one way or the other. As Bob said, he's great at player management, but awful at game management.

As for who will be around next year, keep in mind that Nomar, Pedro, and Manny comprise approximately 60 million of the team's 100 million salary. In order to keep the majority of the players, it may mean that one of the expensive ones has to go.

What an awful game to lose, especially when the guys worked so hard and had it wrapped up for so many innings. We were't out played, Grady Little beat us. man...

Posted by: jfournier at October 17, 2003 3:56 PM

You said it.

The students who work with me look like they've been run over by trucks. None of them remember '86.

Posted by: James at October 17, 2003 3:59 PM

I barely remember it myself. I was pretty drunk. :) But I even remember '78 a little bit. We waited a long time for this letdown.

Posted by: julie at October 17, 2003 9:15 PM

Did anyone else listen to poor Scott Simon on NPR Weekend Edition this past Saturday? He's an _ardent_ Cubs fan. He said of the Marlins, "They're the men who slaughtered my dream." He and Ron Rapoport also touch on the Red Sox.

Here's the blurb and the link:

Yankees, Marlins Ready for World Series

The New York Yankees seek yet another World Series title, with the underdog Florida Marlins headed to Yankee Stadium for Game One Saturday night. Many baseball fans were saddened by the failure of the Cubs and Red Sox to advance to the fall classic. Hear NPR's Scott Simon and Chicago Sun-Times sports commentator Ron Rapoport.

Posted by: Patti M. at October 20, 2003 10:49 AM

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