I can't stand forms. I'm probably not alone there. I'm just not a "form" kind of guy.
But years in school doing form-type tests (not to mention, my taxes) have conditioned me. When I try to fill out a form, I get nervous about misinterpreting what the form is asking for. It's not panic-attack level, but it does give me an unreasonable amount of stress.
Some forms are poorly or ambiguously constructed. Some forms ask for answers I don't have. Some ask for an unreasonable level of detail. But still I obsess and worry about whether I am correctly filling out the form.
Just entering my fifth decade, I am finally starting to have a healthier (for me) attitude about forms. A more relaxed approach is called for. Your stress level should not spike when you're filling out a form.
I bring this up because I have just been asked by someone to fill out a form. I don't want to be specific about why I am filling out this form because it is work related. Let me just say that this form is not the result of any decision I made; I'm not applying for anything. It contains information about the work I do. The information on which I am basing my responses takes up about half a page. This form on my desk is 30 pages long. It even has 2 pages with a checklist to help you keep track of how much of the form you've already completed.
Many of the questions apply to me, but not in the same way the form itself is constructed. That stresses me. In response, I'm turning nearly everything into an essay question. Enough with the tyranny of the form. I will not be corraled by a few words and boxes on a piece of paper!
Posted by James at October 9, 2008 2:39 PMMany's the time I've made comments on a form I've been asked to fill out.
I feel no compunction about editing or commenting on a poorly constructed form/survey, etc. If I can't figure out what it is you want, how can you possibly know what to do with my answer(s)?
Speaking of editing...
I would like to say that it was not I who took a red marker to a billboard next to my office. The word "reliability" is spelled incorrectly as "relaibility," and not one but two people edited the sign with the symbol for "reverse letters," one in red, the other in blue.
Man you'd hate to work here. We are all about the form. I actually like forms when they are well constructed (any form that's 30 pages is not really a form. questionaire maybe?). They save time and remind you to record important information that you might forget otherwise. We do a lot of repetetive tests in the lab so instead of relying on people to remember what to record we use forms and prompt them for the required info.
Oh and I LOVE doing our taxes (I probably should have been an accountant).
Posted by: B.O.B. (bob) at October 9, 2008 3:32 PMThirty pages? The benefits of quickly filling out forms and tabulating their results have long since disappeared by that point. The same information can't be gathered by a shorter phone or in-person conversation?
Posted by: Mike at October 9, 2008 3:52 PMOh, please. I work in Regulatory Affairs. You want to talk about forms? I've got forms, let me tell you. Internal forms, forms required by the FDA, forms one must fill out to create forms, forms one must fill out to change forms...
Still, forms are necessary for documenting decisions. The key is a well-constructed form.
Like Bob, many of the forms I work with capture the same information over and over. I've worked to make some of these forms write-able and save-able so that the repetitive information can be input once and saved. This is no mean feat in a world goverened by Part 11 compliance, believe you me.
James's issue cries out for an automated computerized write-able survey with text fields. Instead of having a checklist to help you keep track of how much of the form you’ve already completed, the form/survey should be automated so that any repetitive information can be autopopulated.
It souds like it's just too damned long if this is a feature that is necessary. Someone didn't know when to stop writing. As a writing professor said to me many years ago: "Tighten, tighten, tighten."
Posted by: Patti M. at October 9, 2008 3:55 PMI feel your pain.
If a form has some kind of memo field on it, I'll put as much info there as possible; if not, there's little point in putting a note on a form because the data entry person isn't going to be able to do anything with it.
I also hate writing them by hand. And I hate that it was distributed in .doc format. I don't mind getting a .doc from friends, but I hate getting them from strangers. You don't know me; don't assume I have MS Word.
I finished the form. My supervisor signed off on it. Even with my "creative" answers. Luckily, he's not a form kind of guy either.
Posted by: James at October 9, 2008 4:06 PMOne of the things that came out of a review was that forms completed by hand are impossible to decipher, which makes the information on them kind of useless, thus my work on a wrteable form, which was very well received.
Can you suggest to the originator that he or she make it a writeable form, or would that critique not be appreciated?
Posted by: Patti M. at October 9, 2008 4:09 PMThis is a one-time thing. I hope.
Posted by: James at October 9, 2008 5:44 PMyou just gotta get all mavericky on that form, there, and make some changes, cause change is good, ya know, there. Just pick up that little old pen, there, and, you know, fill out the little squares, it's not so dog gone hard, doncha know. It's not like it's nucular science, goodness, knows, even a hockey mom can tell ya that one.
Can I call you Joe?
Of course you can call me Joe.
Posted by: James at October 10, 2008 9:44 PMMy advice to you is, take that form and pew pew pew! You betcha.
Posted by: Chuck S. at October 11, 2008 10:12 AMI used to like forms. I also like lists and databases. I got over my affinity for forms two years ago when I had to fill out an online form to get my security clearance for my current job. If it were printed out, the thing would have been about 40 pages. Since it was online, and expanded as necessary if you had multiple answers for some questions, it never seemed to end. It took me three days to fill it out completely. And then, I was terrified that I might have missed something or misstated something that would end with me being interviewed by Homeland Security.
So, um, yes, I now harbor a bit of form-o-phobia.
BTW, it took me a record 16 months to get my clearance. About six months longer than the average applicant. Maybe I screwed up the form! (Actually, they kept having to retake my finger prints. I have shallow ridges.)
Posted by: Kitten Herder at October 12, 2008 9:07 PMThree days?! You win the award for Torture by Form.
Posted by: Patti M. at October 13, 2008 10:04 AM